[教學]釣線釣組綁法

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<P>給新手參考參考！！小弟也努力學習中</P>
<P>這裡記載得蠻詳細的</P>
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<P><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/shikaketukuri.htm">連結一</A></P>
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<DIV align=center><FONT size=2><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/ht/haze.htm"><FONT color=#0000ff>ハゼ</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/ht/hanadai.htm"><FONT color=#0000ff>ハナダイ</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/ht/hiramasa.htm"><FONT color=#0000ff>ヒラマサ</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/ht/hirame.htm"><FONT color=#0000ff>ヒラメ</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/ht/black_bass.htm"><FONT color=#0000ff>ブラックバス</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/ht/brown.htm"><FONT color=#0000ff>ブラウントラウト</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://www.tsurikichi.com/sikake/ht/herabuna.htm"><FONT color=#0000ff>ヘラブナ</FONT></A></FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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Jsefisher

<P>新手必學區</P>
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<P>小弟捲線器剛買來不知道如何捲線就是從這學的<IMG alt="" src="http://www.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="12"> </P>
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<P><A href="http://www.daiwaseiko.co.jp/fishing/nyumon/musubi/itomain.html">http://www.daiwaseiko.co.jp/fishing/nyumon/musubi/itomain.html</A></P>

惡魚王

原帖由 <I>Jsefisher</I> 於 2007-9-14 01:32 發表
<P><FONT color=blue>給新手參考參考！！小弟也努力學習中</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=blue>這裡記載得蠻詳細的</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=blue>可惜是日文.... ... </FONT>

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<P>.......大大 粉有心 找到 好文章 而且是 圖示法 ~ 粉好 上手內 ~~ <IMG alt="" src="http://www.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/kiss.gif" border=0 smilieid="16"> <IMG alt="" src="http://www.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/handshake.gif" border=0 smilieid="17"> <IMG alt="" src="http://www.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/handshake.gif" border=0 smilieid="17">
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